By: Chief Elder Charles Ford Walker
Touching Jesus Christ being the Son of God now, the Bible tells us: "... as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same;..." [Hebrews 2:14] (Here we see Jesus was God).
God made a promise, in [Genesis 3:15] concerning the seed of the woman. God was speaking of the body which He was going to beget and make from Mary's body. The scripture says He was made of a woman, under the Law. See Isaiah 7:14, Matthew 1:23 and Galatians 4:4. The Sonship began in Mary's body. This was the beginning of God's Son. He was God's Son because God begat that body, for it is written, He was conceived of the Holy Ghost. See Matthew 1:20. No man had anything to do with Mary to beget that body.
Justice declared that without the shedding of blood there was no remission. See Hebrews 9:22. We, the human family, had sinned and came short of the glory of God. The blood of bulls, heifers, turtle doves, pigeons, or anything else, could not redeem us back to the holy state which we lost in the Garden of Eden, therefore, God Himself came. He did not come from heaven flesh and blood, but He came here and took on flesh and blood when He made a body from Mary's body according to what Mary's body consisted of-flesh and blood. This is what God Almighty offered up to the Eternal Spirit...to Himself.
This body which he begat by Mary and made from her body, had a natural and divine life in it also. The natural life had to die and shed blood for us and by it we can be redeemed back to the holy state which we lost in the Garden of Eden, because the natural body hung between God, the Eternal Spirit, and us, the human family. Therefore, He was the mediator between God and man. You must admit that through and by the death on the cross we were able to reach God, the Eternal Spirit.
When the natural life was leaving that body, the Eternal Life came out and the natural life cried out to the Eternal Spirit, saying, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" [Matthew 27:46 and Mark 15:34] The Eternal Spirit came out of that body so that body could die. When that body died and shed blood, it was the end of God's Son. God only prepared that body for use for a certain length of time, until He, through that body, made it possible for us to be holy again.
That body was sown a natural body, (this was the end of God's Son) but raised a spiritual body which was God Himself. He will never live here again or in heaven like He lived when He was born from Mary's womb, because the Bible says "...Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God..." [I Corinthians 15:5] When He was born of Mary's womb, He was born the Son of God and at the same time He was God. He was human and divine; He was God and man. The man died, then the divine life entered into that body and He went back to what He was--Spirit. It was a spiritual body that rose from the dead. The Bible says, "...It is sown a natural body." He did not come back like He was sown. See I Corinthians 15:44. He went down one thing and came back another.
When Thomas saw Him, he said, "My Lord and my God." [See John 20:28] That is the truth. When Peter said, "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God," he told the truth. [See Matthew 16:16] He was that then, because He had on a human form, but when He went to the cross and was put to death in the flesh, he was quickened by the Spirit. I Peter 3:18 says "For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:"
The work of the cross had been accomplished and we were brought back to the holy state which was lost in the Garden of Eden by His death. He was the Son of God then, (the Christ, the Son of God) but He is not the Son of God now. There never was more than one in heaven and Jesus Christ is that one. But He does not have on flesh and blood in heaven. If we had not sinned, God would not have had to come down from heaven and put on a body. But after we sinned, it took a body of flesh and blood to redeem us for the scriptures declare, "...without the shedding of blood there is no remission." See Hebrews 9:22. God Almighty visited the House of David and chose Mary, a virgin, that never knew a man. He made a body and got in that body. For Bible proof read [Matthew 1:23] When Jesus Christ was born, He was God with us. Luke 1:68 says "Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people."
Jesus Christ was God Almighty manifest in the flesh. He got rid of the human body while He was here. He did not carry it to heaven. That body had never been to heaven. That human body had never been in heaven and did not go to heaven. The Apostle Paul said, "...we know him no more after the flesh." [II Corinthians 5:16] says "Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more."
Jesus told them in John 16:7-10, "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Of sin, because they believe not on me: Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;"
He told His disciples they would see Him no more. They did not see Him anymore in a human form which was God's Son. God's Son ended on the cross.
In Matthew 27:54 we read, "...Truly this was the Son of God." When the Bible speaks saying, He is the Son of God, it is talking about what He had been as if it is. For Bible to back up my statement, read Romans 4:17 "...even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were." God speaks of things that are not as though they are.
In Isaiah 9:6 it says, "For unto us a child is born, unto us a Son is given:" It was written, is born. We would use that word as present tense. Literally speaking, is is present tense. But remember, when the prophet said a child is born, a son is given, it was about 700 and some years before that child was born. Going back to my thought in Romans 4:17 "...even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were." You can see, dear reader, that the Bible does not contradict itself.
I contend that there never was a Son in heaven. The Son did not go to heaven, neither did He come from heaven. The Son of God did not rise from the dead. The Sonship started in the womb of Mary and ended on the cross. In Acts 9:20, (Paul) he preached Christ in the synagogue, that He is the Son of God. Paul was speaking of what had been.
The eunuch said, "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." See Acts 8:37. This is speaking of things that were not as though they were. There is no scripture in the Bible that says, Jesus Christ is the Son of God now. I repeat, THERE IS NO SCRIPTURE IN THE BIBLE THAT SAYS, JESUS CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD NOW. I defy the entire world to produce Bible for such a statement. There is none. The Apostles did not preach He is the Son of God now. I am ready to answer creation. I say according to the Bible...God was manifest in the flesh. GOD WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH.
"And without controversy, great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory." [I Timothy 3:16]
He was sown in the flesh. The flesh was the Son and the Eternal Spirit which was in that flesh, was God. Thus the Apostle Paul said, "God was manifest in the flesh." This makes what I said true, because the flesh was the Son begotten by the Spirit. That same spirit which begat that body was in the body. The Son was talking here in John 14:10: "Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works." Then again, He said, "...my Father which is in heaven..." See Matthew 12:50.
The Eternal Spirit which filled that body, filled heaven, filled hell and filled every place. He was the Father of the body He was in. This makes my statement true. That body did not start in heaven, the Sonship did not start in heaven, but it started in the womb of Mary and ended on the cross; for when He died, He said, "It is finished." [ See John 19:30] The work that He came to do was finished, because by the way of the cross, He brought us back to the holy state which was lost in the Garden of Eden. He did what the blood of bulls, heifers, and turtledoves could not do. If He had not come and done among them what no other man had done, they would have had a cloke for their sins. But since He came and did what no other man could do, they had no cloke for their sins.
Remember, He had the power to lay down His life and to take it again. He said, "...No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself." See John 10:18. It is true that the Son of God does not exist anywhere now. Jesus Christ was the Son of God when He was here in the flesh. There is no scriptural proof that He was the Son of God anywhere else but here. If he was, I want you to give Bible, chapter and verse to prove it. In Mark 13:32 we read: "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." All those that believe He is the Son of God now, put Him in a very ignorant position. If He is the Son of God now, as some say, then He does not know of the day or hour and that would be a contradiction of the scripture, because it is written: The disciple said unto him, "...Lord, thou knowest all things; See John 21:17.
If He is the Son of God now, as some say that He is, then, He does not know when to come or when He is coming, although there is only One in heaven and that One is He. If that is true, He will not know when to come because the Bible says the Son does not know, but the Father. [Mark 13:32] Now, there is only One in heaven and that One is Jesus Christ. So then, our hope is in vain, because according to their statement, the One that is up in heaven does not know when to come. Can you see what a terrible mistake they have made?
Jesus Christ is not the Son now, He is the Father. There is no Son in heaven to come. There never was a Son in heaven and never will be. When He ceased to be the Son on the cross, He went back to what He was before He was the Son...and that is the Father. He went back to being a Spirit. That is what He meant when He said, "I go unto my Father." See John 14:12 and John 16:10. The one that was in heaven was God. He had no father, or mother. Read the 7th Chapter of Hebrews, verse 3. He is without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life, but abideth a priest continually.
If the One which was in heaven did not have a father, mother, no descent, nor beginning of days or end of life, then you know He was not anyone's son. He came down here God. Isaiah said, in the 35th chapter, verses 4 and 5 : "...Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance; even God with a recompense: he will come and save you. Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped."
When Jesus came, He fulfilled what Isaiah prophesied that God would do when He came. God came and did what Isaiah said He would do. God was not anyone's son. He was without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days nor end of life. I defy creation to say He was anyone's son before He came down from heaven. The One that came (which is God) took on flesh and blood according to Hebrews 2:14.
There never was but One in heaven for the Bible says, For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead. See Colossians 2:9. Some say, I have said there is none but Jesus. Yes, I said it and I will live up to it with Bible.
Some say there are three distinct persons in the Godhead. That is not the truth. It is an unscriptural statement. The Bible does not teach three distinct persons in the Godhead. In Matthew 19:17, Jesus said, "There is none good but one, that is, God..." and in John 10:14, "I am the good shepherd..." There cannot be two or three Gods, but [it] must be like Jesus said... One God. See Mark 10:18. That One came down from heaven and put on a body. When he told the Jews, "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad." The Jews looked on his flesh and said to him. "Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am." See John 8:56-58. He was not talking about his flesh existing before Abraham, because Abraham was dead 1800 years before Jesus was born in the flesh, but He was talking about the Eternal Spirit that was in that flesh. Can't you see that He was human and divine; God and man? There are no two or three, there is only one.
When the Jews asked Him, "Who art thou?" He said unto them, "Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning." See John 8:25. When He was seen of the king in the burning, fiery, furnace, the king said, "...the form of the fourth is like the Son of God." See Daniel 3:25. He showed Himself unto the king in the form in which He was coming, and when He came, He said unto the Jews, "...I am He..." See John 8:28. In Isaiah 43:10 and 11, God said, "Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour."
There could not be another Saviour which came apart from God. That would make God a liar. He was that Saviour spoken of in Isaiah 43:11. He came in a body. This time Isaiah bears me out. Read Isaiah 35:4. "Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompense; he will come and save you." This takes me back to Luke 1:68 where Zacharias said, "Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited truth. and redeemed his people." Again, I defy the religious world to contradict my statements with the Bible. I am ready, prepared and able to go to work in the scriptures to prove what I am telling the world to be a fact, without the shadow of a doubt. May God open your eyes that you may know the
A Statement of Fact; February 1964:As the religious world knows, Bishop S.C. Johnson fell asleep in February 1961. His passing was considered a great set back to most of the believing world. But unto myself and others left behind are ready, willing and able to carry forth the Gospel of God and will stand for the doctrine of the apostles of Jesus Christ; defending the truth of God as it was preached and taught by our late leader. And we to are ready to defy the whole religious world and disallow any contradictions of the statements made regarding this subject matter. Elder Walker, is ready to challenge the religious world on this subject as well and he does have the capacity to prove with bible, chapter and verse all that is written herein.
Note: For additional understanding on this subject read Elder Walker’s Epistle on this same subject, titled: ‘There Is No Son Of God In Heaven Now’ and you can find this epistle at: http://www.apostolic-ministries.net/noson.htm
Elder Charles Ford Walker, Chief Elder of God’s Presbytery